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Post by MalkavianMarine on Jul 25, 2008 0:19:18 GMT -5
1. Val is a mammal (so are ninjas) That's not really accurate. Some ninjas are turtles. (those are what, reptiles?) If the ninja turtles were actually ninjas, then they would have killed people. (See rule three of realultimatepower.com) And dont say they killed shredder, he killed himself.
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Post by Masoob on Jul 25, 2008 2:00:35 GMT -5
Uh oh, I smell an unwinnable forum battle of technicalities.
But as for the comic- I'm sort of dissapointed she isn't trying out a piece of rebar with a chunk of cement on the end. Or even just a bent, rusty rebar. Or a huge flat wrench. Actually I think it would be awsome to see her wield anything trailer trash/redneck, so maybe I'm confusing what I think would be awsome with what I think would be funny.
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Post by jpnuar1 on Jul 25, 2008 12:10:55 GMT -5
If the ninja turtles were actually ninjas, then they would have killed people. (See rule three of realultimatepower.com) And dont say they killed shredder, he killed himself. Your listed website no longer works. Now it's just an ad/link farm. In any case though, only a pirate would be petty enough to kill their opponent. For any honorable ninja, utterly defeating them would be shame enough. And finally, the TMNT are totally ninjas. It says so right there in their title.
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Post by MalkavianMarine on Jul 25, 2008 15:56:48 GMT -5
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Post by jpnuar1 on Jul 25, 2008 16:51:14 GMT -5
I call hoax on that site. Our mutated turtle buddies are living proof that the information on some completely random web page can't be right if it thinks mammal-ness is needed. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NinjasMany sources, including books, television, movies, AND WEBSITES portray ninja in non-factual ways, often for humor or entertainment. (emphasis added) Wikipedia is the ULTIMATE source of online debating victory, and so I point out to you that any true ninja have always been so extremely ninja that it is impossible for any scholars (or pirates, for that matter) to accurately know much of anything about them. Guesstimates can be made, but they are not guaranteed to be true. One thing believed accurate however, is that stealth is a key element of ninja-ry, and it'd be needlessly counter-productive to hiding in plain sight if a ninja were to flip out. Therefore, I can, within a reasonable degree of believability, prove that your website is false: 1. Ninjas are mammals.Some Ninjas are reptiles. Not just in movies either. There are ninja turtles in comics, video games, action figues, and other formats as well. 2. Ninjas fight ALL the time.Ninjas must always (or at least frequently) maintain the element of surprise. If they always fought, anyone who got killed by one wouldn't be surprised at all. They'd just be "Oh, crap, I really should've run the other way when I saw a ninja cleaving his way through a crowded street in broad daylight." Instead, everyone who gets killed by a ninja doesn't get to think anything, because by the time they realize they've been assassinated, they're already dead. 3. The purpose of the ninja is to flip out and kill people.The purpose of the ninja is to remain stealthy, defeat enemies (killing can be a part, but is often unnecessary) especially pirates, and to prove to all normal people (and turtles, etc.) that even if you are good at something, a ninja is better, so you'd better keep trying to improve, or some day, you may find yourself defeated by one.
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Post by Erika on Jul 25, 2008 17:27:13 GMT -5
Someone is going to Godwin this thread ANY minute now, I can tell. Heck, it might even be me...
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Post by jpnuar1 on Jul 25, 2008 18:04:09 GMT -5
Sure, Erica, sure...
But you know who else might Godwin a ninja?
HITLER!(!!)
Edit:BTW, it occurs to me that the Nazis were far more piratey than they were ninja. No ninja would engage in genocide, cause then they'd have one less race to be able to defeat honorably...
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Post by Amazing Mr. K on Jul 25, 2008 20:48:26 GMT -5
I don't know, it is one less race trying to kill them. And I don't know what ninjas you are thinking off, but honor never really factored into the ninja equation.
Samurais though, those guys lived for the sake of honor
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Post by jpnuar1 on Jul 25, 2008 22:02:29 GMT -5
Don't be ridiculous, no one race could kill a ninja. That's why Hitler and his Nazis lost the Second World War, they forgot to factor in that there may be ninjas among those sent to the concentration camps.
And it's pirates who are the dishonorable ones. Ninjas are just a different type of honorable than samurais. Ninjas are stealthy honorable, unlike samurais, who just stand there in the open, waiting to be taken down by sniper fire. There is a difference between honorable and stupid, and that difference is ninjas.
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Post by Masoob on Jul 25, 2008 22:03:01 GMT -5
I'm going to have to back up Mr.K on this. From what I've sifted out of all the crap hollywood and the internet has spewed out about the Ninja, I'm fairly certain they trained from an early age In assasination, guerrilla warfare, and unorthodox combat. None of which would be considered honourable- also they weren't bound by the Samurai moral code, and from what I gather the Ninja were formed around fighting and defending themselves from Samurai. I don't know that they even answered to a government power or leader.
Its kind of like when the British formed commando units in WWII, many commanders didn't want to touch 'throat-slitting tactics' because it was dirty fighting.
Sorry. I'll stop now.
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Post by Lore on Jul 25, 2008 22:57:25 GMT -5
I also agree that ninja are not honorable. There's nothing honorable that sneaking up behind someone in the dark and stabbing them in the back.
Of course this doesn't make them any less cool.
I remember that ninja website from years ago. I'm amazed it's still up.
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Post by MalkavianMarine on Jul 25, 2008 23:45:19 GMT -5
Someone is going to Godwin this thread ANY minute now, I can tell. Heck, it might even be me... " HAHA ! You have sprung my trap card! I summon you, www.askaninja.com ! "
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