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Post by Whitehawke on Sept 25, 2007 12:34:38 GMT -5
Ok so I'm not quite clear on this...Val's power isn't "regeneration" a la Wolverine, it's just "will not die, no matter what"...meaning that normal natural healing will eventually fix whatever problems she has, hopefully. Is that right?
Are there limits to her survivability? Decapitation? Fire? Drowning? Massive organ damage?
All in all, that sounds like a pretty unhappy-making power to have. Poor woman.
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Post by Erika on Sept 25, 2007 20:15:43 GMT -5
You've pretty much hit it spot on. There's a limited amount of accelerated healing, of course, or she'd be in pretty big trouble. Note she went from crushed by a building to slinging bricks in a few minutes.
As for limits...well, I guess we'll find out if she dies. It's pretty safe to say that the wolverine method of death--cutting her head off and throwing it far, far away--is probably a safe bet.
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Post by Lore on Sept 25, 2007 21:08:46 GMT -5
Yeah basically her body quickly heals itself just enough to keep it from dying (i.e. closing a head wound, staunching bleeding, regenerating destroyed organs). Then, once it's not dying, it slows back down to a closer to regular healing pace. She does still heal faster than most people, taking a week or so to mend a bone or what not, but it still hurts like f*ck. It's fairly miserable but it's useful.
We have indeed already discussed ways of killing her, so if we decided we must, it will be possible (Sorry, Adam).
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Post by Whitehawke on Sept 26, 2007 8:45:05 GMT -5
You've pretty much hit it spot on. There's a limited amount of accelerated healing, of course, or she'd be in pretty big trouble. Note she went from crushed by a building to slinging bricks in a few minutes. Yikes. Ok, thanks for the confirmation. As for limits...well, I guess we'll find out if she dies. It's pretty safe to say that the wolverine method of death--cutting her head off and throwing it far, far away--is probably a safe bet. Given his adamantium skeleton, it's just about impossible to cut off Wolverine's head. (*) The only times he ever died, (Days of Future Past, that one X-Men issue where he finds the Omnipotent Crystal Battery Of The Week and discovers that it was a test left for various races and the S'kree and others failed the test, probably other times) I think it always featured instantaneous full-tissue destruction via wide-angle energy beam. Plus there was a response to a letter saying that he could die by drowning. Oh good lord, I am SUCH a total nerd. Why can't I use those brain cells to hold **useful** information?  (*) Although there was a Guardians of the Galaxy (which was a lame series set waaaayy in the future with futuristic retreads of most of the major Marvel characters) where it was revealed that sometime around, I think, the 24th century, they had discovered something that /could/ cut adamantium, so actually it would be theoretically possible to cut off his head. (**) (**) AAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!! Bad brain, bad! No biscuit! |
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Post by Erika on Sept 26, 2007 10:55:17 GMT -5
Don't forget about other adamantium. Forge an axe outof the stuff and it will lop his head off quite neatly. There's also the issue of if his vertebre are fused in any way, or if they're just sitting on each other like normal bones. In the latter instance, you could cut his head off by wiggling a blade between the neckbones, having to cut only the flesh. Of course, that would probably take a bit of time and require a degree of cooperation that he would likely be disinclined to provide.
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Post by Lore on Sept 26, 2007 11:30:01 GMT -5
I vote for a vat of acid.
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Post by Lore on Sept 26, 2007 13:37:46 GMT -5
Don't forget about other adamantium. Forge an axe outof the stuff and it will lop his head off quite neatly. There's also the issue of if his vertebre are fused in any way, or if they're just sitting on each other like normal bones. In the latter instance, you could cut his head off by wiggling a blade between the neckbones, having to cut only the flesh. Of course, that would probably take a bit of time and require a degree of cooperation that he would likely be disinclined to provide. Yes, I believed that was form the Onslaught storyline, when Xavier had a disk that pretty much said how he'd kill each and every X-Man. And then he became Onslaught and tried to do just that. Rwar. See, you're not the only dork here. |
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Post by Masoob on Sept 26, 2007 19:24:42 GMT -5
What I don't get is when adamantium is so rare and difficult to manufacture, there always seems to be adamantium showing up in something somewhere. Well maybe not all the time, but how do they explain x-23s claws? i don't think they did her skeleton....
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Post by Erika on Sept 26, 2007 20:55:00 GMT -5
Because the availabilty of rare materials is one of those issues that "Moves at the speed of plot." The material is needed for the story one wants to tell, so it's available. When it would be too inconvienant to have it around, it's not available. The tricky part is making the two blend seemlessly so that it doesn't seem clunky.
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Post by MalkavianMarine on Nov 2, 2007 22:42:37 GMT -5
She does still heal faster than most people, taking a week or so to mend a bone or what not, but it still hurts like f*ck. It's fairly miserable but it's useful. Could this also be why she is so physically fit ? Her muscles regenerating faster than a normal persons ? Cuz if so, she could work out 2-3 hours a days and get out of it what a Professional Performance Athlete could do in a couple days (which would rock!) |
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Post by Erika on Nov 3, 2007 10:31:19 GMT -5
I don't think we considered this angle, but it does make sense that that is why is is so inclined to being in good shape. For all intents and purposes, though, it's more that she has worked hard to maintain her body because she enjoys it and need to be in very good shape for her work.
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Post by Lore on Nov 3, 2007 11:50:24 GMT -5
She'll probably end up having a longer life span as well. If Mack doesn't get her killed first.
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Post by MalkavianMarine on Nov 4, 2007 10:14:14 GMT -5
I don't think we considered this angle, but it does make sense that that is why is is so inclined to being in good shape. For all intents and purposes, though, it's more that she has worked hard to maintain her body because she enjoys it and need to be in very good shape for her work. Maybe it is something she doesnt even know herself |
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Post by Amazing Mr. K on Nov 5, 2007 0:44:32 GMT -5
hehe
"shes the best at what she does"
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Post by keyko101 on Dec 30, 2008 22:04:12 GMT -5
(Was bored and saw this thread... totally new to the forums) Okay, so I know this thread is well... dead, but I couldn't help but contribute to this. I kinda didn't see Val's healing factor like Wolverine's healing factor, but more like Vandal Savage's or Archangel's healing factor. Mostly because of the way it was described in the comic. So I'm like considering all the possibilities of this and the one on the top of my list is if she'll be able to heal anybody else. Assuming Val's powers aren't magical in nature, you can say that if a person's blood type matches with Val's, she could probably mix her blood with theirs in order for them to heal. So if that's possible, another question would be how powerful is her blood? Since you guys said that there is a limited amount of accelerated healing, her blood probably wouldn't be as potent. Aside from that, I was thinking of other ways that her healing abilities could have helped her. The slow aging process was the one that caught my attention. How fast is Val aging at? Will she live a few years longer than most, a few centuries? And also, since she's still growing (again, assuming here), wouldn't that mean that there is still time for her powers to evolve a bit? Okay, so I'm gonna stop here... because I think I just totally out nerded myself there  (and I'm probably rambling now) |
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(and I'm probably rambling now)