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Sicko
Nov 10, 2007 2:19:05 GMT -5
Post by Masoob on Nov 10, 2007 2:19:05 GMT -5
What did everyone think of Michael Moores new doc, Sicko?
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Sicko
Nov 10, 2007 9:00:28 GMT -5
Post by MalkavianMarine on Nov 10, 2007 9:00:28 GMT -5
he is a wackjob personally . . .
I havnt seen sicko yet but it is supposedly about how the medical insurance world is so crooked ?
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Sicko
Nov 10, 2007 12:00:41 GMT -5
Post by Erika on Nov 10, 2007 12:00:41 GMT -5
Let us blather on about Michael Moore all we wish, but anything he touches is inherently controverisal, so...
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Sicko
Nov 10, 2007 12:43:31 GMT -5
Post by Lore on Nov 10, 2007 12:43:31 GMT -5
He is very fat. He is from Flint, Michigan.
And that's all I hav ta say about that.
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Sicko
Nov 10, 2007 13:56:19 GMT -5
Post by Masoob on Nov 10, 2007 13:56:19 GMT -5
I was hoping for more than 'i hate michael moore' because I don't really even know what HMO means.
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Sicko
Nov 10, 2007 14:00:08 GMT -5
Post by Masoob on Nov 10, 2007 14:00:08 GMT -5
Well I do but what I'm trying to say I don't have an objective view because I don't know exactly how it works. 
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Sicko
Nov 10, 2007 19:12:19 GMT -5
Post by MalkavianMarine on Nov 10, 2007 19:12:19 GMT -5
Same here, I enjoyed watching "supersize me" but I couldn't finish Farenheight 911
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Sicko
Nov 10, 2007 23:38:59 GMT -5
Post by Masoob on Nov 10, 2007 23:38:59 GMT -5
Howcome?
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Sicko
Nov 10, 2007 23:39:55 GMT -5
Post by Amazing Mr. K on Nov 10, 2007 23:39:55 GMT -5
I feel better about myself everytime I look at Michael Moore. I am a large person, but everytime I look at him I say to myself, "Atleast I am not Michael Moore big"
haven't seen any of his movies, not a big fan of documentaries
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Sicko
Nov 14, 2007 19:35:36 GMT -5
Post by Masoob on Nov 14, 2007 19:35:36 GMT -5
So I guess no one is willing to explain the system to me.
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Sicko
Nov 14, 2007 21:53:00 GMT -5
Post by Erika on Nov 14, 2007 21:53:00 GMT -5
It's difficult to explain. I don't know enough about it to really outline it. In short, health insurance is expensive. Some people can get it through work, others cant. Still others can get it through work but have to pay varying amounts. (I, for example, pay 140 bucks a month off the top of my check for medical and dental.) A staggering portion of Americans don't have health coverage at all. Sometimes, insurances (particularly those that are provided by the government for low income people) are complicated and picky about the treatments that they'll cover.
As far as I know, Sicko was about showing all the badnesses in the healthcare system. Both of my parents are medical professionals, but I know more about what they do specifically than the details of the system as a whole.
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Sicko
Nov 14, 2007 22:09:46 GMT -5
Post by Lore on Nov 14, 2007 22:09:46 GMT -5
A staggering portion of Americans don't have health coverage at all. Like me! I don't actually know anyone who saw Sicko.
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Sicko
Nov 14, 2007 22:44:22 GMT -5
Post by Masoob on Nov 14, 2007 22:44:22 GMT -5
So imagine Lore, for whatever reason- lets say a drawing pencil explodes causing severe eye injury- What happens then?
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Sicko
Nov 15, 2007 17:53:55 GMT -5
Post by Erika on Nov 15, 2007 17:53:55 GMT -5
Because she is blinded by the pencil and can't drive, she calls an ambulance: $400-$900, depending. They take her to the ER. $400 ER fee. Then she has to pay for all the tests and medicines that they use to treat her. If they decide she needs to stay in the hospital, she will have to pay for the room she stays in, the meals she eats, and the materials and medicines she uses.
Of course she will be put on prescriptions afterwards to prevent infection and treat her pain, and she will pay for those. Ten days of antibiotics can cost a hundred bucks, easy, and Vicodin costs more than a buck a pill. Mobic for inflammation costs several dollars a pill.
She's not done, of course. She'll have to go to an eye specialist, which will cost another $400, plus whatever the treatments cost to restore her vision. If she needs surgery, the bill is measured in thousands, not hundreds. Glasses are a completely different expense.
Now, because she is uninsured and low income, she will be assigned a case worker who will hep her try to get government insurance and get her whatever discounts on the bills that she can. How much assistance this step garners, I don't know. Of course, if she doesn't pay her bills, they can go to collections, and then her credit rating takes a hit.
So that's what happens as far as I am aware. Nothing exact, of course, but you can see that accident or illness can really hurt someone financially.
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Sicko
Nov 15, 2007 19:00:59 GMT -5
Post by Masoob on Nov 15, 2007 19:00:59 GMT -5
That doesn't sound like a very fun process. Seeing as how paying bills is the worst part of the month, I'm sure it doesn't help that an injured person recovering at the hospital has not only physical damage to deal with, but a bill of multiple thousands hanging over them.
If it was me, I'd try and repair my damaged appendage at home rather than spend my next years tuition on it.
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